Someone elsewhere on lemmy made the argument that conservatives essentially live in the eternal now. Any position is at that moment evaluated on if it’s good for them/their-group or not. Past responses don’t matter. Internal consistency doesn’t matter. It’s just “is this good for me right now?”
They’re trash people, essentially.
Oh so they’re LLMs, got it.
…thay actually makes a lot of things nake a lot of sense.
You shouldnt make decisions just to make sure your past decisions remain consistent. You aren’t required to defend past responses either, people change often.
You shouldn’t do the George W Bush “Believe the same thing on Monday as Wednesday, no matter what happens Tuesday” thing, no. But you should ideally have some underlying belief system that’s more sophisticated than “What is best for me right now?”
The whole “the only moral abortion is my abortion” thing is understandable but also kind of reprehensible. People will make a big stink about how abortion is murder, only horrible people do it because they suck at life. And then they have a pregnancy, and they’re like “oh well this is different.” If you’re not going to reconcile those, you’re shit. You can say “I was wrong, and the people I was shitting on were in positions like I am now. I didn’t understand, and now I do. I was wrong.”
You’re not required by cosmic forces to defend past beliefs, but a decent person can acknowledge where and why they changed.
But if your decision now conflicts with your decision then, you should own up to the fact that your beliefs changed and tell people why.
That’s true. This is more of a ‘they had a position then for bad reasons and they have a position now for bad reasons, regardless of whether what is happening is good or not’ situation.
“It wasn’t about mass deportation, it was about violent criminals.”
They have all their bases covered and can bounce between them as necessary.
Nah, we have way too many people on record saying it was specifically about “illegal immigration”, regardless of any other criminal history. They used that excuse every time an immigrant with no criminal record was deported. Letting them jump from base to base is a mistake. Catch them before they get there and shove their face in it.
Almost. It’s one of those conflating things. They say “criminal illegals,” then talk about violent criminals shortly afterward to cement that connection.
As for non-violent immigrants, it becomes “they broke the law by being here” and they get no sympathy regardless, and they’re still lumped into the “criminal illegal” group.
It’s the same thing with trans people. They want to conflate gender affirming care with the final steps of transition, namely bottom surgery. Therefore when the average republican sees “gender affirming care for minors” which in every case is simply lived experience, hormone blockers, and maybe hrt, they see “chopping off kid’s dicks.”
Yeah they do that. It is really sneaky to call illegal immigrants criminals because of their illegal immigration. It’s like someone being called a criminal just for resisting arrest.
Catch them? They don’t care. You should read 1984.
Thanks Monty
A moose once bit my hamberder
He’s just pulling it all back as he slowly realizes how the real world works, but he still has to sell it as a win to his peons. It would be so fucking funny, if it it wasn’t so horrible.
He’s not playing 5-d chess, he’s playing Uno!
With Magic the Gathering cards…
He’s playing Uno on the 5d chessboard, and all the adults are just sighing at the rammy child.
The article I read explained that his was basically a threat. Leave now and we totally pinky promise that we’ll immediately work to get you back in legally. If you don’t leave now we’ll never let you back in. Why they can’t just set something up where these people can go and do the paperwork to “immigrate legally” from where ever they’re currently at I don’t know.
Sounds an awful lot like “a path to citizenship” if you ask me. A phrase which has had politicians frothing at the mouth for some time now.
They have been an underclass for hundreds of years, Trump thinks that will stay, but the times will change
Why they can’t just set something up where these people can go and do the paperwork to “immigrate legally” from where ever they’re currently at I don’t know.
We already have a system that does that. It’s called “immigration court”, and the vast majority of them show up for it.
Fun Fact (not-so-fun fact): Immigration Court is not a real “court”, its an admistrative proceeding under the executive branch. The president can just dismantle it.
Because the whole point is to have a group of workers without rights or advocates. Noone ever seems to ask why people keep hiring illegal immigrants, just focus on why they would come here.
Even over here in Australia you have to leave the country to renew or change visas, then come back
IDK who needs to hear this but Trump saying stuff isn’t policy.
He isn’t bringing people back after deporting them. He isn’t removing taxes for people who make less than 147k. He can’t force other countries to pay tariffs.
Don’t talk about his stupid ass mouth when you could be talking about his signatures.
That’s B.S.! (Buy Sell).
Two weeks is generous.
Surely he changes his Depends more often…You think he changes his own depends? I think that is a daily volunteer job. I hear people usually have to arm wrestle Marjorie Taylor Greene for it.
I’m sure MTG is GLAD to be of help changing his diapers.
wait till they start calling people criticising Trump anti immigrant and anti human rights. has happened before on other issues so completely plausible
Is it just me, or is this better than the current system? If these people who are currently in the country illegally can leave, then come back legally, isn’t that an improvement?
This is about filling out their database… Don’t be fooled by the whims of a madman.
It’s like Tariff Uno and president FuckFace von CLownStick has infinite reverso cards.
“art of the deal”
