Doesn’t even know the presidential oath he pledged.

You proud now MAGAts? Does this make you proud?

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    Oh he literally forgot the oath of the presidency? Sounds like a good reason to invoke the 25th amendment.

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    I always go back to that early coronavirus briefing where a reporter questioned his authority to dictate state government lockdown policies and he just sat there stunned, repeating “when you’re the president your authority is total because you have total authority, it’s total…” It’s been clear for years that this fucking guy never understood the job description, and rather than learning anything from experience, he’s having it rewritten. The constitution isn’t going to save us from that.

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    “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    The oath of office has one stipulation. Just one.

    He’s taken it twice. He’s such an evil man.

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      “to the best of my ability” is a pretty big loophole for Trump, who has no ability.

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    To be fair, I don’t know either. I mean he’s supposed to, and he swore an oath to, but if nobody is going to enforce that then must he really? What happens if/when he doesn’t?

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    Turns out as long as they have ( R ) next to their name, the president can operate with all the integrity of a five year old trying to get out of cleaning their room

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    A lot of Trumpers here decorate their cars with “We the people…” in Constitution-style script. I wonder how much of it he needs to violate for them to see the disconnect.

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    “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

    This is the oath he had to make when he took office.

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            Pretty crazy that it’s sworn in the Bible when the state is supposed to be separated from the church

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              I’m pretty sure each person chooses a document/book to swear on that is core to them. So most people in the US would choose the Bible because they identify as Christian, but if a Jewish person or Muslim person was sworn in they could choose the Torah or Quran. And a non-religuous person could choose anything that they could convinceably argue is important/core to their values.

              Disclaimer: I did no research right now to confirm this but that’s what I remember.

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                  I did not know this … it is both awesome and interesting.

                  I think the act of being sworn in should also be on one’s passport, give it more weight that if you break the oath you lose the citizenship.

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              The separation of church and state is exactly why the president can be sworn in on a bible. Barring a member of office from swearing in on a religious text would specifically violate their first amendment right to practice religion. Importantly, the state doesn’t require them to use a bible, and it also doesn’t prevent them from doing so.

              That’s the whole point of separation of church and state. If the state required a religious text, that would be establishing a national religion. And if the state prevented it, that would be infringing on peoples’ right to practice religion.

              It doesn’t need to be a religious text at all. It simply needs to be something that is important to the person being sworn in. Technically, you could be sworn in on a copy of the constitution itself, or some handwritten letters from your mother, or a stack of hentai comics.

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                Technically it’s a performative ritual and serves no real purpose. The swearing of the oath is the only important bit and should be enough. You humans and your weird attachment to symbols and artifacts. :)

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                Coming from a place where we practice laïcity, it’s a weird way to separate the State and religion to say that people can swear allegiance on a religious book.

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              It’s actually not mandatory that a Bible, or any religious text be used for swearing in a president. There’s nothing stating that a Jewish president couldn’t use the Torah or a Muslim president couldn’t use the Koran. We’ve just only had Christian presidents so far, though not all of them have used bibles for the ceremony.

              Separation from church and state only pretty much states that congress can make no laws favoring one religion over another or make any laws prohibiting the practice of one’s religion. To prohibit a president from swearing in on a religious text of their choice would, in and of itself, be a first amendment violation. Saying they have to, would also be a violation. The strict separation of church from the state, freedom from religion or the “wall of separation,” is something people have argued for, but isn’t actually laid out in the constitution.

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            he didn’t even place a hand on the Bible.

            Fact!. For all his claims of being a “Christian”, he couldn’t be bothered.

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            Probably

            A. Pissed it wasn’t one from his merch store

            B. Afraid that if he touched a real Bible, he’d burst into flames.

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          Lies!
          His hands are far too tiny for his fingers to cross.

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      The “best of his ability” part is troubling because I have zero faith in his ability to do anything except turn our country into a cesspool.

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        Although all it would take is one phone call to release Kilmar, Trump never learned how to use a phone. Checkmate, libtards.

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    WHY IS THIS SHIT ALLOWED! THIS MAN SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN ANY RESPONSIBLE POSITION! HE SHOULDN’T BE IN CHARGE OF A LEMONADE STAND MUCH LESS A COUNTRY! WHY DID AMERICA ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN! THE MAN DOESN’T WANT TO DO HIS JOB OF UPHOLDING THE CONSITUTION! THAT’S LIKE A DOCTOR SAYING THEY DON’T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE HIPPOCRATIC OATH! TRUMP AND ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS NEED TO BE TRIED FOR TREASON! WHY HAS THIS MADNESS GONE ON SO LONG!

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    You proud now MAGAts? Does this make you proud?

    They don’t care. All they care about is their in-group is strong and the out-group is punished. They’re shitty people.

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    Pressed whether his administration is following the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, which says no person “shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” Trump said he wasn’t sure.

    “I don’t know. It seems – it might say that, but if you’re talking about that, then we’d have to have a million or 2 million or 3 million trials,” he said. “We have thousands of people that are some murderers and some drug dealers and some of the worst people on Earth.”

    It might say that? Might? This isn’t something that is debatable you hippopotamic dung heap. That’s what it fucking says.

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    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    -President Trump, just this year.

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        This is what you get for running two genocidaires.

        Ahhh there it is… Finally getting honest are we?

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                Obviously that is a larger factor for mainstream American acceptance than distant genocide. Most voters have no concept of political theory or world events.

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                  Virtually nobody cared about her being black or a woman.

                  Her policies were horrible period.

                  Most importantly: She got nominated by the DNC because of her horrible policies. Not despite of them.

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      I’m mad at the Democrats for under signing a genocide thus disaffecting their would be voters.

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        the world is not binary. there are many people who bare part of the responsibility:

        • the republican party - all of them
        • republican voters
        • the democratic party
        • no-voters (who didn’t want to “support genocide” and now you have a worse genocide and a bunch of other horrible shit including a shit load of extra war crimes in ukraine for the foreseeable future)
        • the media

        these and many more can have played a part all at the same time

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            it’s worth calling out all on their own because it surfaces a specific problem… just saying “billionaires ruin everything” isn’t helpful, because it simply shifts blame to a nebulous concept that’s further removed from everyday people

            also, following orders is no excuse

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              That’s valid.

              There used to be laws to force news stations to be bipartisan and show both sides.

              Copypasta:

              The “Fairness Doctrine,” which once required broadcasters to present contrasting viewpoints on controversial issues, was eliminated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in 1987.

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                Most of them now seem to follow a fucked-up interpretation of the Fairness Doctrine that requires them to always give the impression that there are no meaningful differences between the parties, which translates into painting Republicans as a perfectly normal, reasonable political party.

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        Ikr, so hard to blame the republicans and the people who didn’t vote for the shit us is in rn /s

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    All I can do is laugh at this point. This regime is so buffoonish and so open with their intentions that I genuinely wonder how people fell for this shit and continue to believe it. Are we really this fucking dumb ?

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      Yeah, we sit around and laugh about how stupid he is while he ignores the law and constitution to the detriment of the freedom of citizens and immigrants alike.

      We are literally that stupid.

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        I want an extensive study done on the brains of maga supporters when this is over. I need to know what is going on up there that makes them act the way they do.

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          More research is always good, as it can deepen our understanding, but the basic outline of what’s going on is already known. A lot of people just don’t want to believe it, because we’re all stuck on the metaphor that we’re all captains of the ship inside our own heads. You see it in this thread; people want to blame non-voters, as if millions of people all had perfect information and all made decisions based upon it through conscious reasoning. Because they’re just—I dunno—bad people? (Which is a completely bonkers belief when you start to dig into it.)

          Actually, neuroscience tells us that consciousness doesn’t really exist, except as an emergent phenomenon of sensory experience. Brain scans show that thoughts, feelings, and decisions occur before we’re consciously aware of them; the conscious mind is basically a rationalization machine, inventing narratives about why we did a thing or felt a certain way, only after the fact. And, it’s notoriously bad at it. (The Misattribution of Arousal is one of the classic examples.) So, if you can affect the way that somebody’s brain works, you can in many ways control what the they think and feel.

          And that’s exactly what authoritarian demagogues do.

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          Same thing that’s been going on for millenia now. Humans being humans, look around the globe and through history. This is not new and we are not special.

          Sucks though.

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          I’ve concluded that MAGA people are as afraid of diversity, equity, and inclusion as normal people are of fascism. Their brains react to things like social acceptance of transgender people with the same horror to which our brains react to Trump sending people to concentration camps.

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          There has been a lot of study done to ‘normal’ Germans after Hitler took over, I expect the result to overlap.

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        Oh yeah same. I was in 5th grade when trump first won and from the get go i could tell he was full of shit. I was taught very young not to trust the rich lol

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          Thankyou for making me feel very old :) Btw, don’t trust anyone with something to sell.

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            When you have a mom who works in fraud prevention you learn stuff like that very young lol

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      Yes. In fact, you couldn’t be more correct about the matter.

      I would describe his response to the question as fully preposterous.

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          If Biden said that the headline would be “Sleepy Dementia Joe Biden Doesn’t Remember Oath of Office He Took Three Months Ago”. It would be brought up in every segment on every news station for weeks. Trump says it and the news is like “That’s kinda weird… Anyways, wonder what Elon is doing…”

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            conservative owned MSMs have done that the whole last year. yes all the msm are currently owned by a conservative partially or fully.

            MALONE is the person behind the sudden switch of CNN.

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          I would describe it as treason; specifically, giving aid and comfort to a domestic enemy (himself).