also downvoted for preferring democracy lol

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    Look, I’m not some north Korea enthusiast. But i do think it’s alarming that America killed 25% of the north Korean population and then as a “thank you” split the country in two and hit the north with incredible strict economic sanctions. And then we’ve spent 70 years getting 3rd hand knowledge of the country through propaganda.

    Do i think north Korea is some socialist paradise? Absolutely not. Do i think it’s fairly portrayed in English language news and social media?

    Absolutely not

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        It does feel bad, but I keep thinking about the people who don’t know any better falling into that way of thinking. If there is at least one person in there questioning their circle jerk. I feel like it can save people a lot of trouble.

        Thanks for creating this post! I think it also helps.

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    Yeah sure, NK is a total utopia. Especially like the part where it says “Workers are the owner of the means of production” as if they didn’t have one dictator that was in charge without anyone really having a choice.

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    You can criticize the US without making other authoritarian states look good. Both can be bad

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    I want every ml in the world to move to north korea or china or any country they stan so much and live there for the rest of their life so that they will feel how “great” and “democratic” these “utopias” are.

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    Women and Men receive the same payment for the same work

    That payment? $24 per year.

    That’s not a joke. That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.

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      That is the real number at the black market exchange rate.

      Which is the ONLY exchange rate, because North Korea.

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    also look at these weird ass rules. This is for the “korea” community

    Insecure much?

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      And then people ask why the lemmy devs receive so little funding. I want to support lemmy but I just can’t morally support people pushing this agenda.

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      I like how this ignores that not only did the DPRK start the war, but the vast majority of the UN lined up behind South Korea, after the USSR stormed out of the security council meeting - they still had quorum, but the Soviets apparently assumed they didn’t, or would adjourn, or something. They didn’t. As a direct result, United Nations Command was established to specifically support South Korea in 1950.

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      I love how this kinds of communities describe themselfes as welcome to discussion and the write all the “facts” as a rule and everybody who says anything els gets banned.

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        Yeah, I don’t really understand why tankies pretend to be liberals so much. So many of their communities are all like ‘discussion welcome!’

        But of course it isn’t actually welcome. I’ve noticed that it’s special to tankies, and that other extremists openly embrace their ignorance.

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            You’re getting a lot of downvotes but no explanation.

            Communism is a classless stateless society. The fact that all these groups are massive states with untouchable political classes rebuts any assertion of communism. Second is the difference between nouns and adjectives. The Communist Party is a noun. Such parties are never able to be described as communist however. In fact Vanguard parties are an antithesis to communism. And would have to be overthrown before achieving communism.

            If you take leninism / maoism seriously. They are supposed to be frameworks with which to jumpstart communism. Sort of like all that " one weird trick to perfect health that doctors hate" spam you see all over the internet. Bullshit.

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            They aren’t communists either. But they long to be a liberal in red paint.

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        I, for one, am sick of the media I listen to constantly telling me it would be fine to completely destroy North Korea in an invasion.

        I am seriously very curious about who these people are that are posting and participating in this place. Is it North Korean trolls? Normal trolls who are taking the piss? Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? Western communists who really believe it? Russians who just want to talk up their friends and poop on the US and don’t really care if anyone believes it or not? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Is it just the lemmygrad admins just making on-brand activity on their server? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?

        Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.

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          Western communists who know it’s bullshit but see it as their duty to say it anyway? People with mental illness? People who just want a tribe to be part of? Who the hell is participating in this? Why?

          Yeah, pretty much summed it up. As for the why? it’s because they are lonely and lazy.

          Also, I took a look. Their video of people “enjoying” is very weird. It reminds me of the USSR Billy Joel concert with him yelling at his crew to take the cameras off people because they were only allowed to have fun off camera.

          I can believe the video is authentic. But it’s important to note that these are the 0.1 percent of North Koreans, the ultra rich. Most are incredibly impoverished. The video’s weird because none of them want to get sand on themselves, they don’t want to look like the dirty peasants, hence their awkward movements. Appearance is very important in North Korea.

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            Oh, it definitely looked genuine to me (although obviously I have no idea). It just didn’t look like anyone was having any fun.

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    99.9% alphabetization? This is what the USA has been missing. The founding fathers failed us.