I guess to be fair I was never really a stickler for any particular method; I’m just a lot more open to a lot of them.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    813·
    7 days ago

    lol is this community for armed revolutionary liberalism? are y’all ready to put your life down to increase cop budgets in dem cities?

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        602·
        7 days ago

        Biden sending Israel bombs knowing they would flatten entire residential blocks full of families: milquetoast centrism

        I love when politics are just normal and boring so liberals like you can just go to brunch and watch TV without thinking about the world system that’s necessary to sustain your treats.

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            582·
            7 days ago

            Yeah there’s a difference, but you are being tricked into fighting against your own interests and the interests of all the victims of imperialism when you make your political struggle the struggle for putting people like Biden in power. You will never fix the problem by putting another Biden in power, or even a Bernie, because the problem is structural and it’s called capitalism.

            • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              7 days ago

              I’m being tricked? because I called out a shitty opinion? Takes a real true believer to see this much based on a comment on moral equivalency. This dude made a shit opinion. That doesn’t mean I’m a fucking “vote blue no matter who” dickhead. Slow your roll.

                • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
                  21·
                  7 days ago

                  jesus another hexbear user who has issues with reading comprehension. fuck me. one more reply then you are my fourth block.

                  the current administration is worse for Palestine than the previous (also hostile to Palestine) administration.

                  I’m talking about ‘normal’ shitty colonialism making milquetoast excuses, an administration who are bad but in the same way every other administration in US living history, versus the current eager and loud administration who delight and revel in the hatred, and actively encourage the visible and very real acceleration of the genocide against the innocent Palestinian population.

                  Both are bad, I hate that those are the choices. But any sane person interested in the actual welfare of the living people who are being terrorised and systematically murdered by the hideous apartheid regime that is isreal, would understand that less harm is better than more harm.

                  Honestly, in a world full of right wing hatred, the stripping of minority rights and open bigotry, you think someone who actually cares would spend their time attacking the people advocating for that rather than bickering with someone whom they think is supporting Palestine the wrong way.

                  Fucking pathetic. I’m embarrassed for you, and all of your peanut gallery friends.

                  One more reply, then I’m done.

              • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
                48·
                7 days ago

                The thing is, I do agree with the moral equivalence. Biden committed genocide. Trump is committing genocide. Biden set up Trump to do all the right wing cultural stuff by never actually wielding power and doing things like stacking the courts, codifying Roe v Wade, etc. Biden set Trump up for the push on immigration with his own rampant deportation program, failing to shut down Gitmo, non-action on legalizing drugs, and ramping up of police budgets under his admin.

                There’s clear continuity of agenda between the admins. I don’t deny that there’s a difference, but if you think the difference is significant enough that your political calculus is anywhere in the realm of “we need a Democrat again but good” then you need to read Lenin’s Bourgeois and Proletarian Democracy.

                • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
                  31·
                  7 days ago

                  Yes there is, dems are the part of the ratchet that stops things from swinging back further left. The two party system is entirely broken. But being complicit is very different from being eager. Right now, more Palestinians are dead then could have been. I’d prefer no dead palestinians, but given thats not on the table right now I will take less genocide. Anything that results in less dead innocents.

        • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
          23·
          7 days ago

          another hexbear user who cant fucking read. To be absolutely fucking clear: I care about Palestinians, I believe that both sides of the american political standard are bad for Palestinians. I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other. I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.

          You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity. Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.

          Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block. Seriously, you do your instance so much damage with your dumbass pontificating. Don’t reply, I wont see it. Be a better person.

          • InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
            511·
            6 days ago

            I am advocating on behalf of the Palestinians by advocating for the less harmful of the two.

            You’re advocating for the ones who started this most deadly iteration of the genocide and calling them “less harmful.”

            You, on the other hand, couldn’t care lass about anyone and seem to be driven by ideological purity.

            Right, which is why on hexbear we have been giving money (that many of us don’t have enough of to pay rent and buy food) and real material support directly to Palestinians as well as having actual Palestinian posters. While communists actually do things that actually help people in the real world, liberals are the ones who pretend to care oh ever so much while doing nothing of any material value, and in fact supporting the people and the party that set the genocide on it’s course.

            Because the real world scares you. Because you are a coward. Because you want to feel correct by ignoring reality. You are of no use to anyone.

            And here’s where the “Every Accusation is a Confession” comes in full force! Every single point, so revealing.

            Now my fifth or sixth hexbear block.

            And as an example of the Every Accusation a Confession principle of the liberal modus operandi, I will go ahead and point out the same thing Dirt_Owl did: “This has to be a bit. He called me a coward while running away and blocking lmao.” But much more than just that, see how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of cowardice, but then goes and does the cowardly thing? See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of ignoring reality, while plugging their own ears and saying “lahlahlah I can’t heeeear you!” See how the liberal accuses Dirt_Owl of being afraid of the world while themselves refusing to even entertain a perspective that challenges their own? See how the liberal says Dirt_Owl is “of no use to anyone” as a strange out-of-nowhere insult, when it is widely known that liberals are seen by people across the "political spectrum* as being useless? They just can’t help but tell on themselves with every little “gotcha” or snide insult they try to use against others.

          • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]@hexbear.net
            47·
            6 days ago

            I ALSO believe that one side is worse for Palestinians than the other.

            I mean we could talk about the liberal application of belief when talking about verifiable facts but I’m just gonna point out you’re completely wrong, the side you believe is better did literally nothing to stop Israel’s genocide.

            • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
              11·
              6 days ago

              jesus christ, I said the word ‘believe’ so you latched on to that, then said the same shit I’ve dealt with by all your twat friends; I’ve already replied to you, you just didn’t fucking read it. Another hexbear block, good job ruining your instances reputation dickhead.

                • bishbosh@lemm.eeEnglish
                  11·
                  6 days ago

                  I was gonna join Hexbear because I like their takes on Juche, but I hear Dave thinks they aren’t acting in good faith.

        • SomeGuyNamedDave@lemm.eeEnglish
          31·
          6 days ago

          oh look another hexbear with reading comprehension problems. fuck me, blocked, be a better person for fuck sake, you are no use to anyone like this.

      • SovietyWoomy [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        462·
        7 days ago

        What rise? The country has been fascist since before anyone here was born. Those fascists have been enabled by people like you cheering on politicians while they put people in concentration camps at the border, strip away basic rights such as abortion while never even allowing others like healthcare, and outright commit genocide. Be honest with yourself: you don’t hate Trump because he’s a fascist, you hate him because he’s not a “polite” fascist.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    651·
    7 days ago

    Here’s the thing. Trump is just a poster boy. The real problems will continue long after he’s dead. There will be further assholes. Trump is a puppet. The string puller will last on.

    We need to address the core root, not the symptoms.

    • Davel23@fedia.io
      35·
      7 days ago

      I don’t disagree, but Trump is definitely a unifying figure for MAGA. Hopefully when he’s gone there will be in-fighting among different MAGA factions trying to enact their own agendas and will cause fragmentation and irrelevance for many of them.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
        131·
        7 days ago

        I can see that. Vance will be one. DeSantos will be another. Musk might even get in on it.

        If I were Hillary Clinton, I’d just troll them, and run as a republican.

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
          51·
          6 days ago

          Remember that Hillary and Bill told Trump to run, believing he would be easy to defeat. They donated to his campaign in 2016

    • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      7 days ago

      I agree. I think Trump’s real purpose is to just take the heat for a lot of unpopular policies and he’s just too dumb and narcissistic to realize it.

      It will be interesting to see how MAGA changes after he’s gone.

    • Dagamant@lemmy.world
      10·
      7 days ago

      He is like a pustule. The disease is underneath and around the area but squeezing it empty will be a huge relief and afterward the healing will accelerate

    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
      7·
      6 days ago

      It’s become very apparent that the puppet poster-boy is a very critical piece to the puzzle, and for some fucking reason, he’s an effective one.

    • rhombus@sh.itjust.works
      41·
      6 days ago

      The rot will definitely still be there, but the power vacuum Trump will leave behind is going to massive. Not only that, but a lot of Republicans are just spineless opportunists and not hardcore ideologues, and they may see it as an opportunity to push back against the nutjobs who have taken over the party.

    • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
      2·
      6 days ago

      You would think the CIA would have done it for us by now, what with Trump singlehandedly destroying US hegemony.

  • gaystyleJoker [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    531·
    7 days ago

    we are democrats. we are legion. we do not forgive (when republicans are in office). we do not forget (when republicans are in office). expect us (when republicans are in office).

    • zabadoh@ani.social
      1·
      4 days ago

      Democrats ptui are paid just enough to be the ineffective token opposition and effective collaborators to the Rich 1%

      The whole two party system needs to be replaced.

      It’s absolutely nowhere in the Constitution, but for whatever reason (money!) it’s persisted.

      The Greens had a little going in the early 2000s but made the mistake of going national before establishing a base in local and state legislatures.

      Instead the Greens were branded as “spoilers” for handing Dubya Bush the presidency, and failed to gain traction since.

  • m0darn@lemmy.ca
    20·
    6 days ago

    I’m going to be one of those parents. I’m going to share what my 7 year old said at breakfast earlier this week as he looked over my shoulder at the pictures in the newspaper and asked me what the articles were about.

    I forget how it came up, but I mentioned that Trump is very old and might die of old age in less than 4 years. He said:

    I don’t want him to die but I don’t want him to be their ruler anymore.

    I told him he was right and praised him for being able to hold those two ideas in his head at the same time.

    …Personally I’d prefer a single event that resulted in the horrific death of several specific top USA officials due to their own malice/avarice/corruption, but I don’t want him to be too cynical.

    I think it’d be best to be horrific, to shock society into demanding better leadership. I don’t think we’ll be so lucky.

  • morphballganon@lemmy.world
    16·
    6 days ago

    The problems we lament are not the result of one man. He has enablers. He has funders. He has defenders. He has judges and congresspeople.

    The idea that our problems will disappear when ONE guy kicks the bucket would be laughable if our situation weren’t so depressing.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      8·
      6 days ago

      The right person going has historically been key to defeating fascism.

      Personality cults need the personality.

      • JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 days ago

        Without the personality the cult that lifts them up still exists and the ideas persist.

        The word martyr exists for a reason. And sometimes a flawed martyr is even better. Because with the right methods, you can always rewrite whatever you like and ignore what you don’t. as we have so very recently learned from modern history, that fact is so much more terrifyingly effective than you could ever dream of.

  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    351·
    7 days ago

    So are you gonna shoot him or what? Trump “needs to go” and you’re armed Democrats. Help me out here.