• Skates@feddit.nl
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        Yeah, this definitely is one of the more ludicrous things Christians have done. The crusades and the child molestation I was okay with, the inquisition just sounds like an awesome time for everyone, and shoving your religion down the throat of everyone else is just what you do sometimes when you feel you’re right. But making laws against feeding homeless people really makes me wonder if maybe Christians are a bit wrong sometimes.

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    Armed to deter cops actually sounds like a viable plan in Texas after what we saw at Uvalde

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      2019 sounds like so far in the past…

      Texas must have fixed those stupids rules? Maybe they have fixed the houses crisis…

      Please I really could use some hope right now

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        A single armed guy in a Texas school will attract cops at a medium distance but repel them at a short distance.

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      The thing is, those guns cause pain and injury by ejecting small pieces of metal so fast they go right through you.

      That pain and injury is a deterrence, yes. Even in Texas.

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      It stopped the cops from entering a school while someone slaughtered 19 kids and 2 adults and that was just 1 person with a gun. So I’d say this would.

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      Yes, it deters the cops. You have to understand that many or most cops are paranoid, cowards, and bullies. They aren’t going around enforcing laws because they think that they need to uphold justice. Rather, they’re going around power tripping. And it’s not such a great power trip if you have to worry about getting shot because people think that you’re dirty.

      Of course this is not true for all cops all the time, but it’s certainly true for many cops most of the time.

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        *American cops.

        Everything you just said would not be true of, for example, Danish cops. Or French cops, for that matter.

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          The police are an arm of the state formed specifically for the purpose of maintaining a societies class structure because the laws they enforce are dictated by that societies ruling class. French and Danish cops absolutely will do whatever the state tells them because its their job, they are law enforcers not law interpreters. One day shit will go down hill for the French and Danish ruling class and when that happens they will use their law enforcers to maintain their standard of living which is to say their positions of power and wealth. This is very normal and becomes quite clear when you learn the history of labor and civil rights movements all over the world.

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            Judging by another reply, ey meant that French cops will engage in a fight rather than chicken out. That doesn’t make them the good guys, of course

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    Texas boggles my mind because it’s such a blue state with some of the deepest red politicians running the place.

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          Congressional districts should have a perimiter-area ratio limit, and the largest district should not be allowed to contain 10% more people than the smallest district.

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            I like that and it would probably work better than suing over a gerrymandered map only for the courts to uphold the crazy district, exactly what happened with the Texas 2nd Congressional District map.

            Honestly with our current level of technology, a more direct democracy approach like a popular vote representation based on stance alignment would probably work better. For example, Average Joe would optionally select a party and then vote on policies, and the representatives would have selected their policies to align with constituents. Policies and candidates on ballot would be chosen through a regular primary, so each party might have separate policies on the ballot. Independents could select a mix of each and get automatically assigned a politician.

            I bet the GOP wouldn’t even oppose it because they love forcing people to commit to a party.

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      A whole lot of empty land seems to have really important votes, since theirs seems go count for than mine.

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      It’s food serving legislation being taken too far. The clothes I think are fine, but since they’re not inspected by the health department like a restaurant the government can technically shut it down which is complete bullshit.

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          Anecdotally, I don’t think so. I used to do some work with a place that did a lot of charity work and would get together bi-weekly to talk about travel and have a banquet. The banquet was always prepared and served in accordance with the law, and there were often tons of leftovers. So we would give the leftovers to the homeless. The health department fined us because we weren’t allowed to serve food outside of our establishment.

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            Did you have some kind of serve safe license that was limited? I wonder why the rules were different than a restaurant letting people take leftovers home.

            Were you guys handing out huge trays of food like after thanksgiving or a party, like “who wants this half a turkey in these ziplock bags”, or was it more like a bunch of to go containers handed out?

            Seems like the seal of government approval on a person’s ability to handle food safety should apply equally to serving in the restaurant and to prepping food for serving outside that building. Right? Just too complex to have it separated out like that.

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            That’s what the to-go bags are for.

            When I was living on the streets of Boston, one day a random dude showed up giving out McDonalds cheeseburgers. Didn’t look very official. He just rolled up with a big bag and started giving them out.

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                The double cheeseburgers differ from the McDouble only in that the McDouble has one more slice of cheese.

                The double cheeseburgers are also buy one, get one for $1. Here in denver that means $4.50 for two of them.

                Probably the most bang for your buck if they’ve got the same deal going there.

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                  Hell yeah, it’s embarrassing but I did already know this, lol. Double cheese for life. Also, Denver for life, I’m from Colorado originally :)

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        No, the Good Samaritan Act says free food doesn’t have to be inspected as long as it’s given “in good faith apparently wholesome food or apparently fit grocery products to a nonprofit organization for ultimate distribution to needy individuals”

        https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/08/13/good-samaritan-act-provides-liability-protection-food-donations

        All fifty states and the District of Columbia have additional food donation statues that limit food donor’s liability—these currently vary widely, such as by who (i.e., donors, nonprofit organizations), and what foods and food products are covered.

        state laws may provide greater protection against liability, but not less

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      Too bad this is an extremely rare use case, but yes this is exactly the INTENT of the second amendment.

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        Does it actually work? Because I fear that it doesn’t and just gives cops/the state even more excuses to further militarize police in the long teem.

        I’m not antigun, but this seems like an arms race you can’t win.

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          It does. Armed peaceful protesters don’t get hassled by the police. These are armed peaceful protesters and they were not hassled. It worked for the black panthers. Cops only brutalize the weak.

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            Well I’m not sure it worked that well for Fred Hampton or the MOVE guys.

            There’s always a danger of escalation, and the boys in blue have no upper limit.

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            Armed peaceful protesters don’t get hassled by the police.

            There were quite a few shoot outs between panthers and cops, no? Some even argue that the increasing use of “swat” was, in part, because of black panthers.

            Again, I’m not speaking out against armed groups, but it seems a bit romantized to say “armed protesters don’t get hasseled”…

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            I’m pretty sure there are some statistics on the mental profiles of cops the people who end up becoming them being people who enjoy power.

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              More will be willing once they realize that the state will kill them whether they support it or not.

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        The INTENT of the second amendment was protect the states’ militias from being disarmed by the feds. So that enslavers like Washington could rest assured that his slave state of Virginia wouldn’t be liberated by the feds

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      I mean, that was always the point.

      To fight tyrannical bullshit.

      It’s just that purist assholes don’t want any regulation whatsoever - so that anyone, anyone can get a gun. And welp… the tragic bullshit happens.

      I’m not pro-gun or anti-gun. I’m pro-common-sense.

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        No it wasn’t. The second amendment was written to protect tyrannical bullshit. The slaveowners wanted to make sure the federal government couldn’t disarm their state-owned militias

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              I took a look at their comment history. They don’t seem like a troll to me. Maybe a bit further left than myself, but that’s not always a bad thing.

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            You just posted a federalist society goon. He’s one of the people that worked on the great American project to make abortion illegal, and the president a king. https://fedsoc.org/contributors/stephen-halbrook

            The text of the second amendment is pretty clearly talking about militias, and the history shows the same. The individualist interpretation is very recent, and Heller was a shitty decision written by the most corrupt supreme coirt justice. https://firearmslaw.duke.edu/2020/10/why-heller-is-such-bad-history

            I’m not anti-gun, but I hate right wing propaganda

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              I’m unsure what you’re arguing against.

              To my knowledge, the link I provided wasn’t a treatise on individual ownership or saying that it wasn’t about militias. It was a direct rebuttal to the idea that the 2nd amendment was proposed to protect slavery.

              I was unaware of Halbrook’s associations, so thank you for bringing that to my attention. However, even a broken clock is right twice a day. If you’d like to change my mind about this, I’d like to see a direct rebuttal of the facts and arguments presented.

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                I’m arguing against the idea that the second amendment was designed to protect individuals against tyrannical government

                I didn’t say it was specifically/exclusively to protect slavery. I didn’t say anything about slave rebellions. The constitution was all about balancing the power of wealthy landed slaveholders of the south with the wealthy landed urbanites of the north. Ensuring state militias was one element of that balancing act.

                Pretending the second amendment was written to protect against tyrannical governments is ahistorical right wing propaganda. * Unless you view it as one sovereign being protected from the tyranny of another. Eg Virginia is protected from the tyranny of Pennsylvania or vis versa

                If you want to read a rebuttal of halbrooks legal theory, read the Heller dissents

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                  Okay. But, I didn’t say anything about tyrannical governments, either. Only that the 2nd amendment didn’t seem to be driven by any sort of slave related anything, per the history presented in the link I read.