• Rekonok@sh.itjust.works
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      2019 sounds like so far in the past…

      Texas must have fixed those stupids rules? Maybe they have fixed the houses crisis…

      Please I really could use some hope right now

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      Fun fact: California’s anti-gun culture was born out of racism and fear of the Black Panthers.

      Ronald fucking Reagan started the anti-gun movement to disarm black people

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        And then continued it federally with bans on assault weapons and magazines over a certain capacity after someone tried to assassinate him.

        I say we should bring back the Reagan approach on gun control.

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          You mean shooting presidents? That’s kinda like a tradition in the one country. In other places it’s more normal for US sponsored coups.

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            It’s an uncanny irony to me when I hear something like “not everything has to be about race” when, at least from the perspective of a non-white, everything in society really does have an unavoidable racial asterisk that we really wish wasn’t there. Racism a fixed worldwide phenomenon that we have no choice but to acknowledge at this point. It impacts everything.

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              Well, you have no choice but to acknowledge it. I’m perfectly capable of pretending it doesn’t exist because it doesn’t negatively affect me.

              (That’s sarcasm, if it wasn’t clear. I hate that there are people genuinely living by that maxim.)

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      You love it? You don’t look at this and think “This can’t possibly be how a reasonable society works”?

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        When it stops being illegal to help vulnerable people, I’ll stop cheering for folks who open carry firearms to deter cops that might otherwise try to stop them.

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            That’s like saying the tolerant can’t be intolerant of the intolerant, when in fact they have to be.

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              And it becomes even more viable when you consider that Popper’s idea is actually based off of a social contract.

              Essentially, tolerance is based on a social contract to be tolerant to each other. If someone is being intolerant, they are explicitly and intentionally removing themselves from the contract. Ergo, they no longer fall under protections, and people can then be intolerant of their intolerance.

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                  • Regular Ignorance
                  • Wilful Ignorance
                  • Bad Faith

                  Pick One, possibly two.

                  There will of course be some who haven’t considered this perspective and some who disagree.

                  I’d put money, however, on the vast majority arguing in favour of tolerating intolerance are the people this concept is talking about.

                  The actively intolerant using the tolerance of others to enact further intolerance.

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          and sorting it out in court later is the way

          Not with cops in US from what i heard. No chance.

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        It isn’t how reasonable society works. It is how OUR society works. Can’t play by the rules of another game you wish you were playing, you will lose every time.

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        Of course most of us don’t love it. A lot of us live in places where, due to concepts like gerrymandering, we have no political choice, so people have to resort to stuff like this. We love that people are fighting back, not that it has to be this way.

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    ITT: Americans generalizing about all cops, even in countries where they have to be trained properly. It’s a form of ‘False Consensus’

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      ITT: people who don’t understand that if the article takes place in a specific geographical region, then general comments about said article are also referring to the same geographical region.

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      There might be an issue with training, but the real problem is accountability. Cops in the USA can get away with a lot, up to and including murder. If police were punished for abusing their power, then it would happen much less often.

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    Every single protest should have an armed contingent in America. That is the only way cops will take you seriously, but make sure you dot the i’s and cross the t’s, because your permits better be current.

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      This gives the cops license to start slaughtering protestors. They’re allowed to kill if they have a reason to fear for their safety.

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        Nope. Cops are bullies and cowards by nature. They love to swing their dicks around unarmed, peaceful protesters.

        Any sign of any possible resistance or discomfort and they’ll suddenly turn into pillars of restraint and caution.

        IE look at all the armed Nazi protests, or uvlade or any other of the myriad of examples.

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          There’s a reason why cops are polite at the Nazi protests, and it isn’t because the protesters are armed.

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    Armed to deter cops actually sounds like a viable plan in Texas after what we saw at Uvalde

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      It stopped the cops from entering a school while someone slaughtered 19 kids and 2 adults and that was just 1 person with a gun. So I’d say this would.

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      Yes, it deters the cops. You have to understand that many or most cops are paranoid, cowards, and bullies. They aren’t going around enforcing laws because they think that they need to uphold justice. Rather, they’re going around power tripping. And it’s not such a great power trip if you have to worry about getting shot because people think that you’re dirty.

      Of course this is not true for all cops all the time, but it’s certainly true for many cops most of the time.

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        *American cops.

        Everything you just said would not be true of, for example, Danish cops. Or French cops, for that matter.

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          The French cops are notoriously dirty, my friend. They have their own similar issues. We saw this during the protests a while back, and that’s even international news…

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            Judging by another reply, ey meant that French cops will engage in a fight rather than chicken out. That doesn’t make them the good guys, of course

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          The police are an arm of the state formed specifically for the purpose of maintaining a societies class structure because the laws they enforce are dictated by that societies ruling class. French and Danish cops absolutely will do whatever the state tells them because its their job, they are law enforcers not law interpreters. One day shit will go down hill for the French and Danish ruling class and when that happens they will use their law enforcers to maintain their standard of living which is to say their positions of power and wealth. This is very normal and becomes quite clear when you learn the history of labor and civil rights movements all over the world.

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      The thing is, those guns cause pain and injury by ejecting small pieces of metal so fast they go right through you.

      That pain and injury is a deterrence, yes. Even in Texas.

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        A single armed guy in a Texas school will attract cops at a medium distance but repel them at a short distance.

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      Big dresses and a lotta cleavage means you got no idea who’s got a concealed sword at a ren faire.

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          lol I’m not describing myself here, I’m just a fish with no meat.

          It’s just been (oddly, I think) a recurring thing that multiple friends have done at ren faires (and costume parties). I know at least 3 people who have done the concealed boob sword thing, and plenty of extras who opted for bottles of hard alcohol instead.

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      Yes I have. It’s called a sword cane. I happen to have some knee damage, and if I play up my limp a bit, no one even looks twice at my cane.

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          I did, something like 15 years back.

          It’s okay quality, but I did have to fix the rattle of the sheath. Just ripped one of the faces off a piece of cardboard, and then rolled it up and shoved it in the sheath. Now the cane doesn’t rattle at all when you shake it, but it still draws smoothly.

          Honestly, any of my solid canes would make a great weapon, but people never realize it, so the sword cane is mostly for the intimidation option.

          Almost anyone can recognize a sword as a weapon, even if I could ruin your day just as much with a wooden hook cane.

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            To be fair, the difference between a hook cane and sword cane is one can cause bruising up to a concussion, with a low chance of broken bones. While the other creates a sequel to Highlander. So your day might be ruined by one; the other makes sure there is only one.

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    Texas boggles my mind because it’s such a blue state with some of the deepest red politicians running the place.

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      A whole lot of empty land seems to have really important votes, since theirs seems go count for than mine.

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          Congressional districts should have a perimiter-area ratio limit, and the largest district should not be allowed to contain 10% more people than the smallest district.

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            I like that and it would probably work better than suing over a gerrymandered map only for the courts to uphold the crazy district, exactly what happened with the Texas 2nd Congressional District map.

            Honestly with our current level of technology, a more direct democracy approach like a popular vote representation based on stance alignment would probably work better. For example, Average Joe would optionally select a party and then vote on policies, and the representatives would have selected their policies to align with constituents. Policies and candidates on ballot would be chosen through a regular primary, so each party might have separate policies on the ballot. Independents could select a mix of each and get automatically assigned a politician.

            I bet the GOP wouldn’t even oppose it because they love forcing people to commit to a party.