The number of female filmmakers working on Hollywood films was flat in 2024 despite buzzy releases like 'The Substance' and 'Babygirl,' study finds.

The number of female filmmakers working on Hollywood films was flat in 2024 despite buzzy releases like ‘The Substance’ and ‘Babygirl,’ study finds.

  • brutallyhonestcritic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    92·
    7 days ago

    Bending over backwards to counter my argument.

    My whole argument is based on the fact that for the entire life of the film industry, those that consistently put in the work and developed a style were eventually promoted to leadership roles.

    I don’t disagree with the nepo babies part.

    However, IMHO, we need to encourage schools and entry level positions to have fair admission practices.

    The solution doesn’t come from artificially boosting women to the top. It comes from the bottom. If you want more women in the film industry, the solution isn’t to suddenly put all the women in leadership roles. If I may offer an analogy: You have to plant the seeds, not throw saplings in with mature trees and expect them to flourish.
    The healthy solution (that wouldn’t sacrifice the quality of the material) is to get more women into film at the entry level areas. That way, they can naturally beat their male counterparts objectively rather than being forcefed. That is unless you want to see objectively worse movies as long as they are helmed by women. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want, though.

    You can’t encourage the film industry to force people that weren’t skilled enough for the biggest jobs to put those people in those jobs just because of their sex. That directly punishes the audience for wanting quality solely for the sake of PR.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      21·
      7 days ago

      The healthy solution (that wouldn’t sacrifice the quality of the material) is to get more women into film at the entry level areas.

      Sounds like woke DEI to me /s

      But genuinely, I agree with this point, and you really should just open with it next time. Literally no one disagrees with you on this. Instead, though, you take us through this cleverly nauseating progression:

      1. The Numbers: You started by reacting to a basic observation about gender disparity with hostility toward DEI and “gender nepotism,” which comes off as less constructive criticism and more knee-jerk dismissal.
      2. The Denigration: You used these buzzwords to undermine the achievements of a lauded woman DoP, despite offering no evidence that her gender was the determining factor in her success (and, frankly, it looks like you have a personal grudge against her based on your profile).
      3. The Pivot: When challenged, you reframed the debate entirely, presenting yourself as a reasonable advocate for fair entry-level practices—something no one here was arguing against.

      If your actual concern is quality and fairness, why not just focus on dismantling systemic barriers and advocating for more equitable entry-level opportunities? Lead with solutions instead of buzzwords and thinly veiled hostility. That way, you might actually foster a productive conversation instead of alienating people who might otherwise agree with you.

    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      43·
      7 days ago

      That is unless you want to see objectively worse movies as long as they are helmed by women. Sounds like that’s exactly what you want, though.

      I don’t give a fuck what pedos are in hollywood are producing my man… i don’t respect these regime whores.

      You can’t encourage the film industry to force people that weren’t skilled enough for the biggest jobs to put those people in those jobs just because of their sex. That directly punishes the audience for wanting quality solely for the sake of PR.

      Capital owners decide who makes movies and they control what is put into these movies with a few exceptions. It is likely the most nepo baby industry in existence. So you have naive understanding how the industry works if you are larping “talent and skill” bullshit.

      You are essentially stating that because a bunch white dudes with connection get these jobs, it makes them the best. It is a circular argument. So you confirming to me that you are in fact shilling these tropes to support the regime narratives. Bad faith arguments with veneer of “meritocracy” to justify status quo.