No, please finish and polish the current products. Stop creating new ones before the current ones are functional.

I’m not sure you know the definition of “selling out”

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I have paid for the “lifetime” plan, and can confirm it’s not uploading in the background for me.

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I’m guessing it’s because they recently lowered the prices from 3.99, so the price isn’t infinitely fixed. Currently they have lower costs, just like a loan with flexible interest might be better in the short run, it might rise in the future.

Or they forgot to adjust the 24 month plan.

Is this on the web or their desktop mail app?

Same, haven’t seen anything like this, but I’ve been a paying user for three years now, so it’s possible they’ve added it for free users after.

Unlike many internet companies that depend on invading your privacy to sell ads, Proton is funded by revenue from paid plans. Because we rely on you for funding, and because you rely on Proton to protect your data, we’re always incentivized to keep your data secure and private.

Your subscription pays for the development of new features and services, as well as the cost of running Proton. By upgrading to a paid plan, not only will you get access to advanced features, you’ll support our mission to provide citizens around the world with an internet where privacy is the default.

From: https://proton.me/support/proton-plans

Well, since he’s not backing up anything with facts, I’d say the whole video is about his opinions on different email services. I’d say he’s allowed to have his opinions, but it’s rather careless to voice these opinions to the public, since he’s trying to make them come off as facts.

Instead of baiting on these (there are A LOT of them) articles and random videos on YouTube claiming this and that, go to reputable sources for privacy news/aritcles/reviews.

An easy way to debunk this nonsense would be to do a 2 second search for 14 eyes and confirm Switzerland isn’t a part of it.

The difference between Proton/Tuta is that they’re self-sustainable and has been around for 10+ years. While they’re not Google/Outlook, they’re not startups like Skiff was. They don’t have investors waiting for a solid ROI, and while both companies marketing/communication has been misleading, there are no signs that either would have the same end goal as Skiff (i.e. sell out and cash in).

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Why should we be equally suspicious to Proton and Tuta?

Haven’t been on reddit in ages, but with his active presence in the forum on PG I can see him going on there too. Marketing works and people were actively looking for reasons to find alternatives to primarily Proton, which he clearly knew and took full advantage off.

Hopefully there’ll be a mass exodus from Skiff, and in the end a bad deal for Notion, that will discourage these kinds of money grabs in the future.

Sad for the people who got tricked into their services from their aggressive marketing. Their CEO seemed very eager to do the right thing on the privacyguides forum, but clearly the plan was to sell as soon as he got a decent offer.

Oh, I use onlyoffice, it was just a silly joke that they weren’t mentioned :)

No love for the onlyoffice gang