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    Bluesky absolutely belongs in the left column.

    It’s not Transparent, Decentralized or Open Source.

    It is a centralized social media network exactly like Twitter. The only ‘open’ part is a protocol that lets you interact with their, private, service.

    The fact that it is ‘open source’ is largely a red herring, if Bluesky decides to no longer support their protocol then it is worthless. It cannot simply be forked and remain useful.

    Bluesky is simply engaging in a PR campaign to steal customers from Twitter. It is exactly the same as Twitter in all of the ways that matter. It can be purchased by Musk or manipulated by the existing owner in the same way as Twitter.

    Making a Bluesky account is simply trusting a new corporation to not act like a corporation in the future… which is a pretty naive position.


    Ecosia is not open source, or decentralized. It is a private search engine based in Germany that provides search results from the major search engines and sells advertisements via Yahoo and Microsoft ad networks. These ad networks are part of Surveillance Capitalism and earn their money primarily by spying on you, collating your data and selling it/using it to place ads.


    Stremio is largely a piece of software used to funnel people into paying for monthly for pirate streaming services. It’s not getting rid of Netflix or Disney+, it’s giving you the option of paying Russian or North Korean supported cybergangs instead of Netflix for access to streaming content.

    The real open source alternative is Jellyfin. Then using qBittorrent along with Sonarr and Radarr to self-host your own media server.


    The other suggestions are mostly okay with minor gripes.

    • They could add GrapheneOS as an Android alternative.
    • Linux Mint is not a bad option but ‘What Linux Distro should we recommend to new people’ is a contentious topic in the community, Mint is fine but there are other options (EndeavourOS is Arch Linux installed with the Calamares graphical installer and some sane options for a desktop PC, btw)
    • While Signal isn’t ‘open source’. It is, for the moment, a secure option that doesn’t require a lot of user knowledge to setup. It is a vastly superior choice than using social media for messaging without requiring a lot of technical knowledge on the user’s part.
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    I’m a millennial, so I’m still checking the nightmare that is Facebook here and there, what’s the alternative?

    Edit: On second look I’m not so sure how good this list really is…

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    Fucking brave shows it’s ugly head again. The only thing worse than a browser owned by a greedy corpo is a browser that is owned by two greedy corpos, one of which is mostly a crypto scam corpo.

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    Currently on mobile and hardly working. Can somebody please do an edit removing fakeogtwitter and the homophobecrytofascistbrowser from this list? The send it to op for replacement. Please and thank you. Cheers.

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    I don’t think BlueSky is a great alternative, it’s still American and also still pretty big tech

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      I also still don’t fully understand if it can be categorized as decentralized.

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    Don’t use Brave. It’s got a lot of privacy issues, even compared to the Mozilla foundation. Underneath, it’s still Chrome.

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      Could you clarify some of these issues? I’m a long time brave user and have really enjoyed using it and haven’t noticed any issues besides some if their Web 3.0 integrations that you can turn off.

      Always happy to find Better options though.

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        Instead of downvoting you, as is the style on these types of platforms it seems… I’ll actually try to link a few websites. One moment.

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        Crypto is dumb and bad for the environment

        “reward” system, which is not cool

        Further issues some have with the browser

        And really, it is just YET ANOTHER Chromium browser, which gives Google MORE dominance on the web, which is a really really BAD thing. They are the ones who are trying everything in their power to not only siphon data off of you to sell to shady businesses, but also don’t like how we can block ads, which I care the most about, personally. I’m sure there are plenty more people who are way more knowledgeable than I that can explain the domino effect of what happens when a company has total domination in a field, be it technology or otherwise.

        EDIT2: Opera (and Opera GX) for those that like it for some reason…

        Opera is shady as fuck too!

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          Thanks for actually answering my question. It was a genuine question based on my opinion for what I knew.

          Based on those articles, the crypto stuff doesn’t necessarily worry me as much as the affiliate highjacking that they were caught doing. I wasn’t aware. Honey recently got caught up In a scandle just as bad if not worse (by scale of users).

          And yeah, I heard Opera was pretty terrible. I wanna say I heard the developers of themselves opera left and created Vivaldi and Opera is Chinese owned I think? I could be wrong on that.

          Either way, thanks.

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            Of course! I’d rather send links to someone than sit there and just downvote and move on, even if said person ignores every thing I sent. I tried to help!

            My go to is this: Is it Chromium? Move on!

            I want to see more Gecko and Webkit browsers than yet another freaking Chromium browser!

            The Chinese ownership is stated in the “opera is shady as fuck!” link I sent! When you have time, and if you care enough, I’d recommend looking at the myriad reasons why they are both just really bad browsers, even for someone who can ignore the crypto garbage!

            Anyway, have a good rest of your day, Jack! :)

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              Yeah, I’m not exactly thrilled on chrome either but at a certain point I think it comes down to “who’s fucking me the least”. Which I totally understand it’s probably still chrome but I think just like with privacy, there is no sweet spot with browsers. It’s all subjective on each person’s threshold and what they want/need.

              Call me crazy, but an example I’ve been thinking about is this:

              Firefox is great. But with their recent TOS addition a lot of people want to jump ship of which ive seen a lot reference forks of Firefox. If, hypothetically, mozilla followed suit and became the next google, wouldnt a lot of those forks just be getting their updates from upstream (depending on the type)? And either way, they would be gecko which is developed by mozilla. So if 10 years from now mozilla goes the data route then we could be back in the same predicament.

              Of course, those forks might not add crypto or screw over creators by affiliate link highjacking so I get there’s more to it then that.

              But either way, I kinda look at these things like the Signal messenger argument. Is it a perfect solution? No, some people say go further because it’s centralized but it does offer a great mix of security and eas of access. And I think those trade offs apply to browsers as well.

              Anyways, thanks again and have a good one as well! I appreciate the discussion!

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    I strongly support Homeassistant. The sheer amount of features they’ve added and the community built around it make it a no brainer for home automation.

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    Lots of these are still American, and Bluesky isnt any-less of a walled garden, they just haven’t reached enshitification-critical-mass yet.

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    OP, quite a few of these are still American, some open source, some not. It’s more like a generic list of alternatives to mainstream.

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      It goes beyond just cracking, with support for features like SponsorBlock and Return YouTube Dislike, but essentially yes. It’s not a meaningful YouTube “alternative”, just a tweaked version of same.

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      Yes it is, if you want something different there is Newpipe, Tubular (with sponsor block and returndislike) , or Freetube. Probably others as well.

      None of these let you login, if that is something you need.

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        They all still rely on YouTube for content. Of course the problem is that the real alternatives (such as PeerTube) have only a fraction of the content.

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    Ecosia is a German web search engine based on Bing and Google’s index.
    Qwant is a French web search engine based on Bing but which has been working on its own index for a while.
    I just found out that Ecosia and Qwant started teaming up last year to build a European search index. I hope something will come out of it. https://blog.ecosia.org/eusp/

    PeerTub is developped by French non-profit Framasoft, which also develops multiple de-gooling apps: collaborative docs, forms, agenda, or host other open-source collaboration tools. https://degooglisons-internet.org/en/

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      I hope something will come out of it.

      Same, as soon as I heard they were developing an European search index i instantly switched to Qwant.

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    While this list is itself could use a major rework, I’m happy to see that this list, originally posted on reddit specifically, gives visibility to lemmy as a reddit alternative.