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        Outspoken libertarians aren’t going to be bullied in college - outspoken anything in college generally leads to people ignoring you. College students that think they’re being bullied most likely attribute normal behavior to bullying - just like incels treat normal human interactions as impediments to getting laid.

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          College students that think they’re being bullied most likely attribute normal behavior to bullying

          This. The specific problem my alma mater ran into was all the conservative students saying they were getting bullied, and when asked how they were bullied, the response was basically “People disagreed with me and now they don’t want to hang out with me!”

          Sometimes I wonder if they’d actually been bullied, if their tune would’ve been different…

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          Your first sentence is somewhat correct, I’d argue that dealing with any kind of absolute like you have done is incredibly dumb though. Of course being outspoken can get you bullied. It may be less likely in a university/college setting, but it’s definitely gonna happen. And your second second sentence is so wrong it’s almost comical. Bullying at a tertiary education level is so common that I guarantee there’s a bunch of studies done on it and probably a wiki page for it too.

          Edit: lol, yep, shit loads of studies (and there’s plenty more to be found than just these few), and the wiki exists.

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        I guess I just went to a really chill college?

        All 4 years of my undergrad my best friend and roommate was a trans woman, we regularly hosted parties where most attendees were members (or even e-board members of) the pride club, i have severe ADHD and many of my closest friends are varying flavors of autistic. As a matter of fact I am still to this day part of a weekly DnD campaign with several of those dick heads.

        All that is to say I have a pretty good idea what my college’s culture was like for LGBT and neuro divergent people. Probably the most common point of conversation whenever high-school came up was that college was so so so much better about bullying.

        I think the only person i know of who got bullied by any stretch of the imagination, was one guy that people just actively avoided because he fucking sucked. Like real piece of shit energy radiating from this guy, and he smelled like 4 year old bottled up farts.

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          Every time I look at the comments for one of these posts, that’s what’s going on at the top. I can usually see where people are coming from even if it sounds insane but I don’t know what this community’s problem is. Maybe a coping strategy from being bullied themselves? It could make them feel like they were in control of it. I’ve seen that from victims of trauma before.vThat’s all I’ve got for theories.

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            They take on more crushing debt, steal, beg, lie.

            Look at the stats on smoking and income in Canadian provinces. The two are like inverse of each other.

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            Maybe you swapped the cause and effect. Instead of “How do poor people smoke” you could ask “Why are smokers poor”.

            And then you’ve already answered your question

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      Genuine answer: annoying people who inject themselves into social circles in which they’re unwelcome. And, no, I’m not defending bullying. I’m just explaining how it happens.

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        Yeah… This maybe isn’t the nicest way to phrase it, but I’ve seen similar situations. Usually people are just kind of talking behind people’s backs, but sometimes it gets nasty :(. Frankly people kind of get bullied all the time everywhere. It’s maybe not as violent as playground bullying but people will be shitty to people at work, school, whatever. Do your best not to be a part of it, try to be self aware if you might hurt somebody else’s feelings, and try to stand up for people.

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            Humorously enough, it wasn’t comp-sci for me. They were generally the cool tech bros, with some nerdy exceptions. The true neck-beards were a certain subset of physics students. They literally left keyboards greasy when they used the community computers. A friend who was in the higher classes told me classes usually had a couple feet section left blank around them because of the smell.

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    If you’re going to write a power fantasy for the internet at least make it cool. Add some lasers or epic street fights. Add in some part where you outsmart the librul professor who hates god. “I found a job in a shitty industry and only prostitutes will fuck me” is not the flex you think it is.

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      I used to use high-powered (4KW) lasers at work every day. Now I make 3D models and sit at a desk.

      Guess which job I like more.

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      I am reading your post and thinking about my job at a major US defense contractor where I write software for laser weapon systems…

      It’s not because I was bullied though.

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      You forget prostitute’s go away which means you don’t have to deal with their shenanigans…I learned that from Chef on South Park.

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    11 months ago

    For anyone who believes any part of this, I have a fantastic bridge-based real estate opportunity for you.

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      11 months ago

      I think everything on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.

      Even my ramblings. I tell them to the best of my memory, but memory is a funny thing, and your only hearing my side of the story.

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    11 months ago

    oh so THAT’S what compels people to work in the tobacco industry. I get it now. Vengeance is yours. You’ve earned it.

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    So, one day I’m riding down the road. I’m like 17 or so. I see this super hot red head chick broke down on the side of the road. At the time (in the mid 90s) I was driving a 73 Volkswagen super beetle. Because of my shit car I knew what it was like to be stranded. So, I decided to pull over and see if she needed help.

    I get out of my car and immediately realized that these 2 greasy looking middle aged guys were working on her car. I told her I just wanted to make sure she was ok. But it looks like she already has help so I’ll leave.

    That’s when she says “Wait, your MJGS right?” I’m like,”Why yes I am”. She says “I’m Stephanie smith we went to school together.” She then says “Please stay, I don’t know these guys and I don’t trust them.”

    I agreed and we talked for close to two hours. We laughed and talked about what happened to people we went to school with. Everything was perfect.

    The two guys got her car running and left. I gave the guys like $20 or something for their help. It was all I had.

    So she and I go to leave, and I stop and ask her if I can have her number. I figured we could go out sometime. After all we had just had a great time chatting it up.

    All of a sudden like someone poured cold water over her head. The smile was gone and she looked me in the windows of my soul and said “You used to make fun of me in school.” I said “I swear I don’t remember that, but if I did I’m sorry.” She said “Yeah, you were a real ass hole to me fuck you. The answer is no.” That was one of the only times in my life I was left speechless with my mouth open. I just bowed my head, got in my car, and drove off.

    I guess the moral of the story is. Sometimes making a joke at someone else’s expense may not be a huge deal to the person making fun. But it’s a big fucking deal to the person on the receiving end. To this day I don’t remember ever saying anything bad about her. I’m not calling her a liar. I probably did. I just don’t remember it.

    I didn’t escape school unscathed. I had people that were super shitty to me too. But that’s a different story. For a different time.

    I ran into that chick again about 6 years ago. In our mid 30s. She was a “shot girl” in a seedy gay bar. We talked about the good ole days for a long time. I did not ask for her number again.

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        Well, when she and I talked, she said that she had an arrangement with several bars around the city. Where she would buy those test tube shots and walk around and sell them. Then give the bar a cut of the profits. She went to gay bars and country bars, and dance clubs.

        I think the seedy gay bar part says more about me than her if I’m being honest. Heh.

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      Wild ride.

      Two takeaways, why did you pay the 20$ to the guys fixing the car? It’s not your car and she’s not your gf.

      Second, I agree with you being a jerk sucks.

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        Honestly, I felt like an asshole not helping, and she didn’t offer them anything for their help. Looking back maybe that was a sign. But yeah I thought that these 2 guys that got her car running deserved at least a 12 pack of beer each (remember we are talking mid 90s prices). So, I gave them a 20. Plus if I’m being 100% honest. I was probably trying to look cool. It did not impress. Heh

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      “Sooooo… Still angry at me or you finally realized that teenagers are assholes and people change?”

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      Being autistic can get someone bullied, and the person on the receiving end may not even know what they did wrong because of their autism.

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        Fuckin yyyyup

        This was my whole life and I love seeing people online say the person being bullied deserves it.

        Really shits all over my experience and the years I spent trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with me to make everyone seem to hate me just for existing.

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      We do not know if the person was bullied or just had an extreme sense of entitlement or some other type of personality disorder which made them believe everyone who didn’t treat them a specific way was bullying them.

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      Have you met a bully?

      Usually bully has a reason that they bully, but their targets are just whoever looks like an easy target. If it turns out that they are, they keep them.

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    When you’re in a hostile environment, it’s natural to be hostile to your environment.

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      Eventually you have to step back and wonder, “Am I just a piece of shit?”. Ask yourself this question, then look at your screen. Are you on 4chan? Do you have Pepe images on your post? If you answered yes to these questions, there’s a high probability that you’re just a piece of shit.

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        Reducing 4chan to its mediatic extremes is like reducing Reddit to the_donald or Lemmy to Hexbear.

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          This ignores that 4chan is widely known as the cesspool of the internet and attracts those types. It’s like going on Hexbear and being surprised at the communists. People gather where their banners are. Shit attracts shit. This reduction is apt.

          Sure it kind of does some good ish things sometimes, but more often than not, it’s just an internet mob internet mobbing. That’s essentially all it is: chaos waves constantly crashing back in on itself. Any good that comes from it is incidental at best.

          Also, defending 4chan on the wider Internet is a little odd, 4chan itself revels in its shit reputation…

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            Sure it kind of does some good ish things sometimes

            I’m actually not saying it brings more good or whatever. I’m saying it’s mostly an anonymous forum with people just discussing like many other places on the internet.

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              I can’t help but project an old version of myself on you. I can’t imagine defending 4chan unless I was actively using it a lot… It did used to be basically my only internet community, so I understand being particularly fond of the cesspool.

              However, I don’t actually understand your reactions here. Why are you defending it when it seems like 4chan itself wouldn’t even go this far except maaaybe as a limp wristed attempt at an excuse when something truly horrific happens because of them? I genuinely don’t think I understand

              Like, to currently vilify it is easy, just take a screenshot of pol. I remember looking pre2016 and seeing HYPERPARTISANSHIP all caps everywhere. It’s an anonymous forum with people discussing plans to make life shittier for various groups, essentially at all times… And before pol it was b (my era was back when pol was a boring place, I don’t know the current state of any board, but I know some of the history and what motivates some normies of my niche who fuck with it)

              I just don’t understand the downplaying of it, normal people participate in shit ways on 4chan specifically because of the anonymity. The anonymity is why it’s such a cesspool in the first place. It’s toxic keyboard warrior syndrome to the extreme.

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                I’m not using it a lot just checking by curiosity sometimes because I like internet culture. And you probably do too, otherwise you wouldn’t be in this community.

                What I particularly dislike is tribally colported stereotypical opinions. For exemple Reddit considering Musk as a genius a few years ago and a complete idiots nowadays. I find similarly stupid to reduce 4chan to its racist/sexist users, there’s also a lot of good quality social satire as we can find in this c, and overall a lot of uninstering normal internet discussion between nerds of different specialities. You focus on pol and b, like people could focus on Hexbear and lemmygrad to judge Lemmy, I think Lemmy cannot be reduced to those.

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      Genuine question: What do you think I, as a member of the LGBT+ community, did wrong that resulted in being bullied while in college?

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          The person you’re replying to backticked it so it was copy/pasteable. Presumably the the top level comment already edited theirs.