The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.
A survey taken by Harvard’s Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), “who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and ‘fight harder’,” rather than leaders who are willing to “compromise” with President Donald Trump.
Centrist approach?
USA has a conservative Party and a Neonazi Party
Sounds about White.
Two old rich white men arguing over the proper way to do genocide against brown people. Then they both get upset when brown people stop buying their shitty products.
72% of Democrats Want Party to Abandon Centrist Approach to Trump
Party: But who will help us become exponentially richer then?
Mother fuckers just play the fucking market if you’re so morally backrupt. Even when you’re selling us out you fucking take the most low ball barely consequential amount to flush millions of peoples lives down the drain.
I want to abandon the centrist approach, period. No more reaching across the aisle, no more insider trading, no more letting capitalists dictate how society should be. America has given capitalism a nearly free hand to determine the nation’s destiny, and it has lead to death camps, fascism, and stolen the prosperity that workers had earned with their sweat.
It is time to try a completely different approach to economics and an overhauled Constitution.
I don’t want to hate on it, but it’s like we don’t respect the Constitution as it is anyways. And the origins of this country was rich landowners. So technically we’re all just kind of like livestock. I guess simply what I’m saying is we have to actually become a real country. And that will require kinetic input.
It should have been a living document. This is how you know these idiots are a death cult.
Earned with their blood*
Won’t happen. There’s long been a gap between what registered party members want and what those in charge actually do.
We saw the same thing in the UK a few years ago when Jeremy Corbyn got a huge swell of support from the party proper, but all the other Labour MPs collectively rounded on him and conspired to kick him out of the party altogether because he was going to put a stop to their gravy train.
tone-deaf about the tone-deaf
They kicked him out after he led Labour to it’s biggest loss in ninety years.
Billionaires don’t deserve a seat at the table.
We wouldn’t let any other group of 3000 people contort our entire society to their will.
Right: Genocide ALL undesirables without due process.
Left: Genocide nobody without due process.
Centrist: Clearly there is middle ground. So, lets genocide some people without due process.
Can’t i just have a little genocide? As a treat.
Well since you asked so nicely and as a centrist I’m so conflict averse I prioritize harmony over any sort of moral compass then yes, have as much as you want. Just stay polite or I’ll gently chastise you and then give in to you anyway.
Doesn’t matter what the people want, the democrat’s corporate masters make the decisions.
AOC and Sanders ARE the centrists. That’s the key to understanding the issue here.
Sanders?.. Maybe. AOC… No freaking way.
You want a centrist that Dems should listen to? See Adam Frisch in my state. Almost beat Boebert TWICE in her home county.
They are in the exact center of the policial spectrum. I realize that is difficult to understand for some folks, but I will explain it as best as I can. AOC is approximately exactly the midpoint between me and Trump. That is what the political spectrum means.
They are obviously among the most leftist elected politicians in the US, but that’s not saying much. We need to get our brains out of this mainstream media cesspool of “centrist” or “moderate” meaning “not a right wing extremist”.
Unfortunately in the situation, almost only counts in hand grenades and horseshoes… Lauren boebert is just… Well it shouldn’t be hard to beat someone that gave a God damn hand job at a theater show in polite company regardless of their political affiliation. Dude’s got to figure out a better way to get his message across to people.
Yeah. I know she’s terrible. It’s not the hand job that I’m against, she’s terrible as a congress critter. My point is, his message did land in a solid red district. She moved to the eastern side of the state to keep her seat.
Honestly, the hand job controversy seemed a little slut shamey to me.
Like, sure, it was wrong to do that in a public place but considering the scandals of most republicans that was almost quaint.
Still getting bribery from AIPAC?
Wow ya think
Then they will freaking lose and deserve it. They surveyed Democratic voters. You want reality? You lost to the worst candidate in the history of voting in this country. WAKE THE HELL UP!
If 72% of Democrats want to drop centrist approach then go vote for a progressive in the primaries you bunch of non-voting assholes.
The last time they even had primaries was 2016 and we all saw what happened then. Voters have had no choice for a long ass time.
WTF are you talking about? We had primaries just last year.
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates
That’s the problem with progressives and democrats, they never seem to remember that there are other primaries other than presidential that actually do matter.
Kamala was literally NOT chosen in a primary, she got chosen because of being vice president. Additionally, we all saw what they did in 2016 so you are arguing in extremely bad faith.
Woosh…
What they’re saying is that the president isn’t the only election and progressives and those further left rarely running for other offices is the problem. You don’t just wake up one morning and decide to primary the top party choice with little to no experience and win. You build up, Bernie didn’t just run for the nomination, he had a long record of successfully winning races in VT and was a known figure.
There are primaries and elections for school board, mayors elections, governor, state offices, state house and senate, congress, etc. This is where you build a movement, not president. The fact the the US Greens only trot out a presidential candidate every 4 years is how you know they’re a spoiler and not a serious party. If they were we’d have greens running for all those other elections all the time, but they don’t. We need a river of actual leftist politicians and we have like a handful of drops in a bucket.
Absolutely and at least progressive groups are not full of these Internet progressives and tankies and are actually doing the work and not just down voting on Internet forums.
Honestly, in this past primary, I saw a lot more progressive candidates at the house/Senate and state, which is extremely nice to see in my decades of voting and only donating to progressive groups.
Change is coming, it’s been slow but it’s coming.
The DNC fucked Bernie in 16 for Hillary… forgive me if I don’t the have Faith in their abilitie to read the god-damned room… being said by a guy who did vote for Harris and would have voted for literally anyone but this situation…the DNC needs to listen to the people, not use superdelegates to ensure the proper “sanctioned” candidates are on the ballot.
We WANT change…but also fuck the non voting idiots…unless it really was election tampering by Elon and Putin(again)
Agree with you there. It really is kind of shocking to see the Democratic primary being the least democratic when compared with the Republican primary that’s full of fascists.
72% of democrats is like 72 people. The party is the least popular it has ever been, by the numbers.
By the numbers
You clearly don’t know what any of the numbers mean
72%? That’s CLEAR CUT that we MUST move MORE RIGHT!
-The DNC Literally!
Yeah I’m expecting the dnc to double down with Kamala and maybe Pete as a running mate.
I’d bet real money they’ll try to run Shapiro. They dont see a terrible republican competitor as a must-win competition, they see it as a chance to run the worst dem they can possibly get away with.
When you say DNC are you talking about tens of millions of registered voters? Because that’s who picks the candidates.
I’m talking about the rich Democrats who donate to the super PAC that decides what laws Democrats will be pushing, the people who decide that Dems shouldn’t tax the 1 percent more aggressively.
The people making Democrats lean towards being centrist in reality, but yeah the tens of millions of registered voters decided like you said my mistake.
S/
If you don’t like the SuperPAC and campaign funding then vote DNC. With enough votes in the senate they can make a constitutional amendment that reverses Citizens United.
When was the last primary?
In 2024, Joseph Biden won the Primary with 87.1% of the popular vote, earning 3,905 delegates out of 3,949. Only 14 Million people voted in the primaries held between January and June, what would be a record low turnout if it weren’t completely normal for an incumbent president’s primary.
Please god let this be different than 2016
2024 Democrats defended the DNC going full 2016 so you bet the DNC will go full 2016 in 2028.
Trumps ratings are tanking so the Democrats can run a dog turd and win.
I’m in the same boat as you, hoping, but if 2016 and this past November have taught me anything, it is that most Americans have the memory of goldfish as soon as election times come around.
Gonna keep my fingers crossed though!
That’s my entire expectation.
The actual question that 72% of Democrats support:
Do you support more Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and “fight harder”, or moderate Democrats who are willing to compromise on Trump issues important to their base?
The question is “do you want to fight Trump more” not “do you support AOC and Bernies progressive agenda”.
It’s interesting that they explicitly, rather than implicitly, chain compromise with Trump to the moderates, and fighting Trump to the progressives. Without that, that number might have even been higher. This reads to me like a solid condemnation of the moderates.
The part Democrats are responding to is “fight Trump”.
Also of the democratic party by a certain reading since Bernie is an independent and AOC is a Bernie plant hehe 72% would prefer more people outside the current party line.
